One thing I’d love to understand better (and it’s not currently measured to my knowledge) is how the scheme and pass pro calls play a factor. Separate the “did we call the right protection to prevent this pressure/sack?” part of pressure/sack analysis from “are the 5 (or more) guys blocking for me good at it?” and “how is my QB’s play factoring into this?”
Take Burrow for example. Is he slightly above average for responsibility because it’s something he does? He’s often praised for his escapability and slipperiness in the pocket while his OL takes the blame, but the data you’ve shown (and I’ve noticed elsewhere — Steven Patton of FTN) point to him being just an average QB. I feel like he may be held back by a shotgun-heavy, pass-first scheme that allows defenses to stay in a “hunt the QB” mode all game and dial up more creative pressures. Compare that to Allen/Jackson… both guys have balanced offensive attacks that keep defenses honest.
Along those same lines, I’d be curious to see how those numbers evolved for Allen from Brady compared to Dorsey/Daboll offenses which had Allen under center way less and were pass-heavy.
From what I can tell, it’s not. I remember Chris Simms mentioning one of the reasons he believed Stroud struggled at times last year was because the league had figured out Bobby Slowik’s pass protection and the OL/Stroud stood no chance. Just had me wondering about schemes in general and how they can play a role in all of this as well.
Not exactly sure how to quantify it, especially as someone that doesn’t scout OL play and protection schemes. But a factor that I feel is often overlooked in sack/pressure analysis.
Cool. I wonder if there’s a way you could use something like PFF team pass blocking grades to help filter out offensive line play/quality from this. I’ll be following along with you this season.
One thing I’d love to understand better (and it’s not currently measured to my knowledge) is how the scheme and pass pro calls play a factor. Separate the “did we call the right protection to prevent this pressure/sack?” part of pressure/sack analysis from “are the 5 (or more) guys blocking for me good at it?” and “how is my QB’s play factoring into this?”
Take Burrow for example. Is he slightly above average for responsibility because it’s something he does? He’s often praised for his escapability and slipperiness in the pocket while his OL takes the blame, but the data you’ve shown (and I’ve noticed elsewhere — Steven Patton of FTN) point to him being just an average QB. I feel like he may be held back by a shotgun-heavy, pass-first scheme that allows defenses to stay in a “hunt the QB” mode all game and dial up more creative pressures. Compare that to Allen/Jackson… both guys have balanced offensive attacks that keep defenses honest.
Along those same lines, I’d be curious to see how those numbers evolved for Allen from Brady compared to Dorsey/Daboll offenses which had Allen under center way less and were pass-heavy.
All fantastic questions. I don't know (or think) most of what you are wondering about is measured but worthwhile to look into in the future.
From what I can tell, it’s not. I remember Chris Simms mentioning one of the reasons he believed Stroud struggled at times last year was because the league had figured out Bobby Slowik’s pass protection and the OL/Stroud stood no chance. Just had me wondering about schemes in general and how they can play a role in all of this as well.
Not exactly sure how to quantify it, especially as someone that doesn’t scout OL play and protection schemes. But a factor that I feel is often overlooked in sack/pressure analysis.
Cool. I wonder if there’s a way you could use something like PFF team pass blocking grades to help filter out offensive line play/quality from this. I’ll be following along with you this season.
That's a great idea. I can look into that. Thanks, James. Appreciate that.